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This series consists of debates and discussions between a non (and/or anti ) Catholic and Vincent P. Lewis of ARM. The goal of these selections is to allow you to hear the principles contained in other ARM products such as the Bible Apologetics Course put into practice, and have some fun listening to some anti-Catholics make fools of themselves. These W series products range from polite discussion, to formal debates, to heated conflict. But always you'll see that outside the Catholic Church a man may be honest OR knowledgeable, but NEVER BOTH. As you listen you will learn that only Catholicism can be defended as true Christianity. Remember this: almost all of these people claim to be "experts" and all claim to be "Christians”.
No one debates as well, or as often as ARM. Every contest is a complete triumph for the one true Faith.
W1 Salvation Debate
This is a formal debate with Vin contending with an "independent" Baptist pastor at his church in Massachusetts, in front of his congregation of “ex-Catholics”. The subject is the “Roman” system of salvation. It includes a lively question and answer session. Highlight: the pastor completely withdraws a common slander against the Church, when challenged to validate it.
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Larry is a pleasant fellow, who agreed to speak on the issues of sin and salvation. He refuses to answer when his own logic leads him to admit Purgatory's existence. His basic dishonesty bursts forth with his attacks on Catholicism. This is a perfect example of how these "nice" people are all dishonest below the surface.
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Two Jehovah Witnesses "door to door" missionaries happened to drop by just like the ones who drop by your home. But now YOU can hear how a Catholic expert dissects and destroys the nonsense which these fellows spout. Includes an epilogue giving correct responses to their silly claims.
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This Jehovah Witness “expert” (He is some kind of “elder”) agreed to explain this cult to Vin. Never before has the pure lunacy and dishonesty of this cult been exposed so clearly as in this live discussion. His ignorance of truth is equaled only by his revulsion to it.
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Nick agreed to talk on a wide range of subjects. He claimed that he could defeat any Catholic apologist. He tries to find "just one thing" wrong with Catholicism. He does not...after all, no one can! But it's still fun to hear someone try. The tone of this selection is rather mild and easy going.
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This debate which took place by telephone pitted a professional anti-Catholic against Vin on the issue of: “Is Catholicism contrary to the Bible?" The highlights include: a 10 minute, 5 point proof of Catholicism, and the admission that non-Catholicism is against the Bible.
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Here is a high ranking academic type. He is the head of a Bible "college”. Most ministers (especially Fundies) receive their "education" at such places. As he falters in his defense of his views on the nature of the Church, the Papacy, and truth, you will realize why such institutions aren't accredited, and why Protestants remain so intentionally ignorant and like it this way.
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Bob Jones (yes, this IS its name) “University” is THE most anti-Catholic institution in America. Its students handed out leaflets calling the Pope the Anti-Christ. The school distributes lots of anti Catholic trash. In this surprisingly pleasant conversation a "professor' and Vin discuss “dissent” within the Catholic Church, Formal Tradition, Sola Scriptura, Church authority, and more. Note: although this selection (of a phone conversation) has background interference; its content is audible.
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You all know Jimmy ("I have sinned") Swaggart. You may not know that he has two "college level" schools. In this selection, one of the chief faculty members, who knows "a lot about Catholicism”, discusses some issues with Vin. His explanation of when the Catholic Church went "wrong" is very funny, but not as hilarious as why he is not a Catholic. Other topics: scriptural interpretation, infallibility, denominational membership ...more. Learn what sexy Swaggart's silly cult REALLY teaches about the one true Church.
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Bill thinks a great deal of his abilities, and claims that he can "prove" that the Catholic Church "went wrong." He responded to an ARM "hot line" phone message in Chicago. He exposed himself as ignorant and dishonest. If you believe that Lutherans are “closer” to us than the Fundies, then you need to hear Bill expose the sad truth.
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Yes there really is such an organization (it’s in Ohio). It is headed by George, whose wife is a Catholic! George prints lots of anti Catholic material, and in this debate attempts to discredit Catholicism, but Vin completely defeats him. Learn why George prays for Vin’s death. This selection is (unintentionally) funny as well as educational.
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W11 Protestant Cathedral Builders
“Bishop” Paulk is a nationally known Methodist, who is raising funds to build a “cathedral” in Georgia. Vin promised a contribution from ARM, if ANY of his staff could answer JUST one question: why build a cathedral when people are hungry? Three of his staff (including a resident FEMALE "theologian") tried. Hear why the check never got in the mail. Topics included: the concept of absolutes, use of statues, divinely revealed truth. Another example of the total emptiness of the “mainline” sects.
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W12 Question for a Baptist Minister
Reverend Crumptions heads a missionary organization from (Bible Belt) Mississippi. He refused to “debate”, but he agreed to “answer” questions about what and why he believes. The result was complete destruction of the Fundy position. The selection also includes a brief conversation with a Protestant who objected to an article in The ARMament in which he admits the basic dishonesty of Protestantism.
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Because of their "higher” morality, MORMONS are considered by many Catholics as more sincere than others, and less evil than regular type Protestants. They are just as bad. You will learn the truth about this cult from the mouths of three young ladies. You will hear them ADMIT that their system can not be honestly defended. If YOU live where Mormons are active, then this selection is a MUST for you.
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In this live recording of a “missionary effort” team, a group of Mormons agree to the position that joining the Mormon cult is the ONLY way to get to Hell! This selection shows why Mormons are exactly the same (in dishonesty and silliness) as all the other Protestants. This discussion (which includes a running commentary by Vin) deals with the basic issues of sin, salvation, and the afterlife. It is a perfect complement to selection W13.
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John heads a Reformed Church of American congregation in New Jersey. He tries to defend his sect based on the teachings of the Church Fathers ...but he didn't know that Vin had read them also, so his “con job” didn't work, as he FREELY ADMITS. Listen to his response when he is asked to promise to tell the truth. A true eye opener!
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This "ex-Catholic" gets his kicks by handing out anti-Catholic trash and defeating Catholic apologists (he claims to have defeated Karl Keating). He tries to defeat Vin by a (futile) attempt to disprove the Immaculate Conception by using the Bible. A great example of the troubled personality of the former Catholic.
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W17 7th Day Adventist Adversaries
Two "experts" (one being an ex-Catholic and now a "pastor") from this cult agreed to accept ARM's challenge to find fault with the Catholic Church. The discussion revolved around topics of Papal authority, Infallibility, and Biblical subjects. When their own dishonesty becomes evident, they turn nasty, as cultists often do. This cult is very active in most areas; learn how YOU can expose their errors.
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The opponent in this discussion runs a professional anti Catholic organization in Oklahoma. He is challenged to find "just one thing" wrong with Catholicism. He uses virtually every trick in the book (which are exposed, analyzed, and refuted) to avoid admitting that there are none. A highlight is when he admits that he does not know Catholic dogma.
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Gary is the resident expert of the so called "Christian Equippers International" of California. This fancy title hides a coven of anti-Catholic bigots who push slanders about the True Faith. A New York City parish priest referred some of its literature to ARM, and Gary attempts to defend a booklet "How did we get the Bible?" which contains stupid anti-Catholic lies. His shameful failure shows perfectly the disgraceful trash which passes for "scholarship" among Protestants of all types.
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Kevin was "raised Catholic" but later joined a lunatic Fundy cult, and then a "main line" sect; where he admits he found neither peace nor truth. A referral put him in touch with ARM. Kevin knows a great deal of true Catholic teachings, and would be invincible against ordinary apologetic techniques. Only ARM's unique approach worked. If YOU know an "intelligent" ex-Catholic this will show YOU exactly, how to bring him back closer to the truth.
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Ronald is an official of a national cult group which holds that the Catholic Church is evil. He agreed to a formal debate on: Can the Papacy be justified by the Bible alone? Afterwards, even Ron admitted that he lost, despite the help of his entire group. This set is the most comprehensive exposition and defense of this dogma ever! If YOU have not yet heard how a Catholic dogma may be defended by the Bible alone, this set is for you.
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Doug is an "active Christian" from New England. He agreed to discuss basic Christian issues, such as: the connection between the Catholic Church and the Bible, and the Real Presence (which he tries to explain, hilariously, from a Protestant point of view). Doug does what comes naturally for Protestants, when dealing with the truth: he dodges... but he can not hide. When YOU run into this type, you'll need the techniques recorded here. This selection set was rated "excellent" by an experienced Catholic evangelist.
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W23 Our Lady of Victory Debate
This formal debate was held at St. Denis Church, Beekman, NY. Todd Weiner, (a national cult leader) challenged ARM to debate the following: can the veneration given to the BVM be justified by the PROTESTANT version of the Bible? Todd pre-arranged ALL the conditions and restrictions, so as to guarantee his victory... but Truth triumphed; and he lost. A lively Q & A session from the audience is included. This set shows perfectly how the true Faith will triumph no matter what the conditions.
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This set is a “return match” between Todd and ARM, this time held in Maryland and on Transubstantiation, and the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Again ONLY the Protestant "bible" could be used. If Jesus died "once for all," how could the Mass be a sacrifice? Todd argued. If YOU can't answer that question, then you need this set. There is a Q & A session included.
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A Catholic writer from Michigan told ARM that “Bob Militello was the strongest anti-Catholic in New York City”. Bob visited a gathering of ARM supporters in Manhattan, and was exposed, along with his "Bible expert”, as completely dishonest frauds. Listen to why Bob feels that Catholics will be "ashamed' in heaven, what the "unforgivable sin" is and why Jesus “condemns” the "Catholic" Bible. One participant called it "the most distilled dishonesty ever”.
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This selection is a discussion between only Bob Militello and Vin Lewis dealing with many of the same issues, but with a little more directness. This is a "one on one" talk between the two. Bob is very slick but he meets his match in Vin.
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A recent convert from South Carolina asked ARM for help in defending the true Faith against a group of Protestant "experts," who had heard ARM selections, and were CONVINCED that they could find fault with Catholicism. This set is valuable and distinct for that reason AND because of the unusual subjects dealt with: “soul sleep”, the Divinity of Jesus, canonized sainthood, Sabbath vs. Sunday worship, marred clergy, among others. Despite all their advantages, these gentlemen of the South failed to land any punches ...as you will hear.
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W27 Saint Benedict’s Center Debate
Rob Zihns is an ex-Catholic who once studied for the priesthood. He is associated with “Christians (sic) Evangelizing Catholics”. He said that he holds that “no Catholic can be saved” and he was willing to debate the ENTIRE Catholic system of SALVATION. This debate took place at the St. Benedict Center in New Hampshire. It includes a O&A session directed towards both speakers.
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W28 Big Names … Big Disappointments
If you know anything about Protestantism, then you've heard of Billy Graham and Josh McDowell (this author CLAIMS to be a "defender" of Christianity). And you may have thought that their organizations are really concerned with the truth, but after you listen to this selection in which officials of both groups expose themselves as dishonest, you will understand why Protestantism is a purely human system and NOT any real form of Christianity.
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John McArthur has a national radio program. ARM challenged him to a debate. His substitute Jim decided to test Vin Lewis ... and then advised his boss to retreat. You'll hear why Protestants like this run from the consequences of their “beliefs”. Jim states that Catholics CAN NOT, and CAN, go to heaven... it’s the standard Protestant position on everything: trying to avoid any clarity.
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“Doctor” Fox (his real name!) is an Episcopalian "Priest" who writes about "serious" religious issues, and rejects Catholicism as false. Yet he freely admits that his own state of knowledge is such that he is "not certain" that he is not “a woman on the planet Mars”. He is simply more honest than most other Protestants. If you have ever attempted to pin down an Episcopalian evader and failed, listen to how to do it, or if you simply want a good laugh, listen to how silly a religious system becomes when it is cut off from the truth of Rome.
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Don is a Protestant Fundy “scholar” who responded to an article in a Catholic magazine. He publishes his own “papers” of a false “scholarly” nature. This conversation is a PERFECT example of the importance and utilization of pre-agreements in exposing error and heresy. You'll sense a deep uneasiness in his conversation which is explained in Don's last (most personal) admission.
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W32 The Saint Catherine Debate
In this debate, three Fundies oppose a visiting Nigerian priest and Vin Lewis. The topics ranged from salvation, to understanding Scripture, to Papal Infallibility, among other subjects. The debate had been arranged by a divided family: one member joined the Fundy group; the others remained Catholic. Both were present, and one told why she left, and the other why she came back to the Church. The debate took place in Connecticut and was extremely lively.
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A very active Catholic family, from the Syracuse area of New York, invited Vin to talk to Jeff, a friend, about the Faith. Jeff belongs to a strict cult, and is very firm in his “faith”. Yet he changed and abandoned his views so often that he sounded like a politician. Topics include: married clergy, taking oaths, calling on God for help, the value of truth, “the end times”, gifts of the Holy Spirit, etc.
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When Scott Hahn (faculty member of the “catholic” University of Stubenville) met Vin Lewis, he said that there was “only one” person from Protestantism who would be a worthy opponent. Before Gerry Matatics (“Biblical Foundations”) entered the Church he went to the one man he felt would be skilled enough to dissuade him. In both cases this “champion” was John Gernster, professor and author. In this conversation, this “best hope” of the Protestants is pathetically overmatched against the best defender of our true Faith. The contest was centered on the issues of truth, good will, forgiveness of sin, and the cooperation of man with God.
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W35 The One True Church Debate
This debate, sponsored by “the Church Militant” took place at Fordham University, New York City, and was moderated by Dr. William Mara. The Protestant was a Brooklyn Baptist pastor, and the subject was: “Is there one true Church?” The audience was composed of real Catholics, several "modernists," and a bunch of Baptists. Strong points of contention were: the dogma of "no salvation outside the Church”, and the nature (and value) of revealed truth. This is quite simply the best defense of the identity of the Church in recent times. Includes a question and answer session.
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W36 The Protestant Revolt Debate
This formal debate, held in New York City at the offices of the “Pastoral and Homiletic Review” building, and sponsored by the Saint John Fisher Society, deals with one of THE most basic issues between Protestants and Christians: is there any way to justify the revolt (and corresponding bloodshed) of the Protestants against the Church of Rome. In a masterful destruction Vin establishes with irrefutable logic that by ANY standard, including the Protestants own, the revolt was evil. The audience was divided between a group of Catholics (both loyal and liberal) and very fanatical “evangelical” type Protestants, many of whom were “raised Catholics”. The Protestant minister, from the Free Evangelical Church, was very cunning, extremely slick, and totally defeated. The selection includes a question and answer session.
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W37 The Immaculate Conception Debate
This debate was held in Illinois (on December 7) in a Protestant High School. The topic and the restrictions (only the King James Version of the Bible could be used) were chosen by the non - Catholic panel of three Baptist officials. They were confident of an easy victory, and instead suffered a crushing defeat. How can we PROVE that Our Lady was sinless when the Bible says that “all have sinned?” Where does the Bible clearly equate Jesus and the Blessed Mother in sinlessness? Listen and learn how to defend this most important dogma against the most common attacks. The debate included a “cross examination” session by the parties involved.
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This phone conversation was set up by the opponent who had received an ARM tract and was challenged by it. He asks the usual questions, but VIN tries a different approach. Virtually every answer is centered around the person. The approach is subjective, and intuitive rather than objective and scholarly. This is a fine example of how YOU can make apologetics effective by personally bearing witness. It is a perfect example of using the Protestant terms against the Protestant.
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In this debate the issue is: "can only Catholics be saved?" VIN takes on a panel of liberal Catholics, including a seminarian, a lawyer and the former publisher of a Catholic magazine. VIN relies on the OLD Testament, right reason, as well as formal pronouncements to prove the orthodox position and scores a ringing triumph for the truth. This includes the question and answer session.
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This series of discussions consists of Vin talking to a number of Protestant ministers. The topics include: the nature of truth; the requirements for salvation; the central role of the Real Presence; and (with an atheist) the nature of reality.
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This is a formal debate between James White (Alpha Omega Ministries), an internationally known anti-Catholic “scholar” and Vin Lewis. The topic: is the Papacy a divine or human institution? Vin wins a crushing victory by using a number of arguments, including: Scriptural Proofs, right reason, the character of Catholics versus non-Catholics, ontological facts, and more. This formal debate includes direct cross examination by each of the parties. The highlight is when White admits that what Protestants believe does not matter to God.
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This debate is a return match between Vin Lewis and James White on Purgatory. Vin proves its existence by a threefold argument: the loving and compassionate nature of God's justice; numerous Bible verses; the Dallas Cowboys. White fails miserably to refute any of these, and in fact ends up arguing that his “god” is both cruel and irrational. The debate shows very clearly how all Protestant beliefs lead man away from God and His truth. The selection contains a very heated cross examination. It also contains annotated remarks by Vin.
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This debate took place in Corpus Christi, Texas over two days. Vin is part of a Catholic team combating a “Church of Christ” (sic) champion. The topic was: is the New Testament the sole authority for the Christian? The Protestant opponent is among the most cunning and dishonest enemy of the Faith, ever! But he met a crushing defeat. It exposes, forever, the nonsense of holding that the Bible alone is the right way to go. Hear the best arguments/refutation EVER raised against this lie.
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This debate was a follow up of selection W43. It involves the same parties as W43. The subject was: is the Catholic Church the same as the historical Church founded by Christ? The debate establishes, by numerous arguments, the fact that ONLY the Catholic Church can be considered the one founded by Our Lord. Among the arguments used were: why the true church must be intolerant; repetition; Purgatory; praying to, and for, the dead; the life of Saint Joan of Arc; why only Catholics are honest about the Bible; many more proofs . . . all based solely on the Bible and right reason. This is a VERY vigorous debate.
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W45 Louisville Sola Scriptura Debate
Three midwestern Baptists attempt (and fail miserably) to prove that Scripture, that is the Protestant cannon, is the only available infallible authority. Listen to Vin Lewis, the Catholic champion, expose them as liars and partake in some virtuous name-calling in this debate which was held in Louisville KY. A question and answer period follows.
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W46 The Looniversity of Louisville Debate
Here Vin proves that Catholicism is the only religion in the world. Two protestants do not even attempt to disprove this but instead attack The Church. The Church, of course, triumphs! A question and answer period follows. Disc two includes two entertaining bonus conversations between Vin and ARM supporters.
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